i've worked with him in that environment to know that he does not think of those things lightly and let me make it very clear that based on again, my discussions with him, he has not provided paula broadwell or anyone with information, classified information that they shouldn't have. >> has he had any conversation or contact with paula broadwell in the last few days? >> last few days, i'm not aware of any. she, up until everything that came out with the news, i'm sure she was still working on her dissertation. there was some potential contact back and forth over a little bit of time about that. you have to imagine somebody who is doing their dissertation is not going to just give up that entire body of work and research very easily. >> what about jill kelley? how do you describe david petraeus' relationship with her? >> i think very simply as close personal friends of not only david petraeus but of his wife, holly, as well. they met the kelleys not too long after they arrived at tampa, mcdill air force base, home of u.s. central command, where he became the commander october 31st, 2008.